Thank you for the feed back guys, its just an old beat up antenna with a coax thats been slammed in the door a few thousand times. Im getting into a new truck in a week or so and thats when i will put all new coax, mount, and antenna and try this again. Theres a 8' helacoil on the international ill be driving. Would that be a better fit for the tricky dick?? Or would the brand new francis 4' be the way to go??