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    Quote Originally Posted by BOOTY MONSTER View Post
    what DB is talking about is using a electrical half wavelength of coax ...... not to be confused with a physical half wavelength of coax . the middle of the CB band (27.205 MHz.) has a wavelength of 36.1798 ft (rounded off) . a physical half wavelength of coax will be half of that length (18.0849) .

    the difference between a physical half wavelength of coax and a electrical half wavelength (and multiples of it) is the EHWL will duplicate the vswr so it's not skewed by a meter or analyzer if the antenna is not tuned to a perfect 50 ohms . the few feet of extra coax length is negligible loss wise when using decent coax ..... even 8x . heres a link with info explaining it in more detail than i care to type .


    http://www.dx-antennas.com/Coax.htm

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    ........................ WHAT LENGTH?As mentioned the best length is the shortest, in this way the loss due to the cable is the lowest.
    There can be one advantage by extending the length of the cable:.
    A HALF WAVE coax cable or ANY multiple (1, 1½, 2 wavelength) length of this will show you: "exactly the same input resistance at both ends of cable". In normal words:
    You can measure the exact SWR from the antenna with these lengths of coax cable.
    If your antenna is truly 1:1 it doesn't matter, each SWR measurement anywhere on the line and you will find 1:1.
    Only when your SWR isn't 1:1 but higher your measurements will change according to length, this is when it can come in handy to keep the line a half wave long (or any multiple). .................

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    COAX AND VELOCITY FACTOR
    The shielding and the core of a coax form a capacitor. Through the use of insulation material, the value of the capacitor is bigger then it would be in air, and this has the effect of slowing down the signal. This can be of great importance in some applications, although for many purposes it does not needed this information ;-)Velocity factor
    The speed at which the signal travels is normally given the abbreviation VF and this is the fraction of the speed at which the signal travels when compared to a signal traveling in free space. So VF for a signal traveling at the speed of light would be 1.0, and for one traveling at half the speed of light it would be 0.5.

    The velocity factor of the coax cable is found by VF = 1 / SQRT (dielectric constant)
    Coax cable electrical length
    One important factor of a coax cable in some applications is the wavelength of the signals traveling in it. In the same way that the wavelength of a signal is the speed of light divided by the frequency for free space, the same is also true in any other medium. As the speed of the wave has been reduced, so too is the wavelength reduced by the same factor. So if the velocity factor of the coax cable is 0,66, then the wavelength is 0,66 times the wavelength in free space. ......... "
    I beg the differ 8x is garbage and using better coax makes a hell of a difference . stop believing everything you read booty . iv'e got friends in here right now can tell you after they changed that 8x junk they had better performance on the transmit and receive side . it makes a big difference . velocity factor this . bump bump
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    differ all you want ... no need to beg . on 27 MHz. for 100 ft or less the loss is negligible , if you're not running more power than tha the coax can handle . having the pl-259's correctly attached is very important !

    as for your friends ...... get some smarter ones
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    OPTIMAL LENGTH BETWEEN LINEAR / ANTENNA / TRANCEIVER ??
    There are stories about the length between an amplifier and the antenna/ transceiver. The above goes for this as well.
    Just keep it as short as possible, there is no benefit to make it anything else . this is so untrue what you posted booty !!!!!!!!!!!

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    LOL , read the article in context ......
    you may need this first though .

    https://www.hookedonphonics.com/

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    this post has turned into toolbag.com

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    Why is it every time I ask a question it devolves in to trolling chaos? Ugh.


    619 the Chef choppin' lips and deep-frying Mud Ducks in the Yellin' Yukon and I'm gone...
    619 the Chef, choppin' lips and deep-frying those ducks in the Yellin' Yukon and I'm gone...

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    i hate when that happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by 619 NJ View Post
    Why is it every time I ask a question it devolves in to trolling chaos? Ugh.


    619 the Chef choppin' lips and deep-frying Mud Ducks in the Yellin' Yukon and I'm gone...
    sorry 619 . booty loves copying and pasting and don't know crap . iv'e down all these tests and use the proper lengths to do so . booty just cant take a good answer with some real facts . he want to argue and argue .

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    It's ok bro. I get my truck tomorrow! Probably going to drill it this weekend! Gonna need a fine tune next time you are around, if you don't mind.


    619 the Chef choppin' lips and deep-frying Mud Ducks in the Yellin' Yukon and I'm gone...
    619 the Chef, choppin' lips and deep-frying those ducks in the Yellin' Yukon and I'm gone...

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    i explain the what and why about what DB told you and you wanna accuse me of trolling your thread .

    i'll try to keep in mind how unappreciative you are and not help your silly butt anymore .
    take care
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