The Rod of WHO???

**NY714** · 02-09-2013, 08:45 PM

$550 and a 4 week wait now IF they can find the parts.
it looks to me like a 5/8 antenna (no matter what they say) with 1 cap and a coil forming an L network and one feeding the driven element. I like how they fit over the puck mount and it grounds itself there.... very cool

am I wrong on ho do you have the whole thing? the 12 ft sections etc? have you ever used it?

**NY714** · 02-09-2013, 08:47 PM

A local here in the islands picked this antenna up straight from Dave back in 1999 for $700 - $200 for shipping. He never used it and it ended up in his closet....till I picked it up from him about a week ago. I have read about this antenna thru the years and no one had something bad to say- instead they all agreed that it kicked as$ so bad, it got banned from keydowns. In the quest to find out how to really run this antenna, I called Dave's tag team in North Carolina Mr. Gunn and told him I have one. Mr Gunn then told me that there was only one person in the islands that had one and he asked me If i got it from him. I said no and he was surprised that a rod of god was sitting in someones closet besides the one here he already know of.

I went on and asked him how to run the antenna. He told me that I need a 12 foot fighting stick for the main antenna. The total antenna length for the front has to be about 198 inches. The back antenna NOT GROUNDED has to be 212 inches. These measurments are dependant on vehicle.

Mr Gunn said that this antenna is a 1/2 wave.

Time to order those custom 12 foot sections from Mr. Gunn....Shipping will be between $150-200 for 2....ouch!

My question is is why the back antenna (reflector) is not grounded. Im stilll learning about this antenna myself. Anyone else out there ever seen one of these in real life? Ever run one?

**NY714** · 02-09-2013, 08:49 PM

Xforce also has an $800 version of the ROG.1-2-Wave-Antenna-System274-188_th.jpg

http://www.xforceamps.com/category/Antennas-And-Mounts-14

**NY714** · 02-09-2013, 08:50 PM

Is there any documentation of the .64 λ being better than a 5/8 λ ? I've read many antenna books and articles in mags and on the web but don't recall any mention of this.Hell I can't think of any mention of .64 λ antennas other than for CB/11M.

**NY714** · 02-09-2013, 08:51 PM

From what I have read (several articles) the db gain difference is un-noticable. Its somting like 0.2 db gain added

**NY714** · 02-09-2013, 08:53 PM

I was going through my photobucket album and ran a crossed these old pictures of Davemade"s "Rod of God" from days gone by. The last I heard you could still get them for something like 500 bucks a copy plus a bundle for shipping cost but that"s been awhile.

**NY714** · 02-09-2013, 08:54 PM

I have seen those pics before and last I heard about one was one of the Mod Squad boys out in Hawaii bought one for around 600 plus shipping. Cant remember where I saw it though. It was on one of the forums. It was supposedly an original.

**NY714** · 02-09-2013, 08:55 PM

Throw a towel over it and play with it outside

**NY714** · 02-09-2013, 08:57 PM

Is there any documentation of the .64 λ being better than a 5/8 λ ? I've read many antenna books and articles in mags and on the web but don't recall any mention of this.Hell I can't think of any mention of .64 λ antennas other than for CB/11M.

**CBRN38** · 02-09-2013, 09:46 PM

back in the day the dave guys used the half wave bounce back set up with 1 director. they did well, but they are not "the" half wave that got people on the banning spree. At that time a 1/2 wave was stronger then the current 5 antenna systems. It wasnt untill a different set of half waves showed up in texas and cut off the guy who ran 3 32 pills tied together. with a single 32 pill on a battery stack. The next event everyone went into banning mode. The guy with the 3-32's beat the ROG set ups many times.
With the 5 antennas we run now, I cut my half wave clean off at 40 miles. so have others at shorter distances.
The true benefit of a 1/2 wave is for skip talking.

the dave style 1/2 wave can be purchased at fat boy www.chargercharger.com Its the same basic design without the glass caps. The other style is made by 55. Its more efficient also.

The reason the rear isnt grounded is its not a 1/4 wave. any 1/2 wave director or reflector is isolated. length basically determines is function. ( this is a simple description )

And 1/2 waves are 12-15 db over 2 coils, which are 4-5 db over 1 antenna.

fabtoys 1/2 waves are 1500 i think, 55's are 950 shipped.

Why buy a 1/2 wave. The most common response I hear is " im not paying 900 for an antenna " freaking morons!!!
" I can buy a 12 pill for that" Bigger moron!!!!!!
If you are the type of guy who sits and talks skip the half wave is for you. reason is 12 db gain is doubling your power 4 times. So lets say you are doing 1000 peak. Double that 4 times. ( depending on who you talk to or what chart you follow ) that could be 4000 peak ( chart ) or 16000 peak by doubling each increase total of 4 time.
Lets just go with the 4000 peak.. 1000 peak is a 5 pill, so to get 4000 peak thats a good running 16 pill.

16 pill 1400
2 alts and a bracket 1500 ( thats cheap )
batteries and power cable. 500
external regulator 100
having the room in your mobile ????????

Morons please stand up.... thats at least 3500 to get 4000 peak. Imagine if you needed 16000
Especially if you cant get a bigger alt worth a damm, have the room for multiple alts or cant take up the room in your family mobile 950 shipped is really looking a lot more friendly now doesn't it.

DO they really work. yes! I have a set, use them for skip ( and some keydowns ) and switching from coils to half waves has yielded many more contacts, complete cut offs when the coils were mixing, etc